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PostSubject: I want to tune   Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:40 pm

Hi guys, I'm desperate to learn and understand how to tune different cars, but cannot get to grips with it!
I'm not a hardcore automobile fan, so the technical terms of camber, toe, rebound and the sorts kinda confuse me a little. I've read the descriptions over and over and am beginning to get an idea of what they are but do not understand what settings to use for different outcomes.
Ive tried looking at the majority of all your tunes, and again, get confused. Like, how do you know what to set the differential at, or the bump stiffness etc. Any helpful tips would be great
Bickel has already begun trying to help me get to grips with it, and for that I am extremely grateful. But I need a crash course in tuning from you all I think before Bickel gets bored of repeating himself Embarassed

For instance, Say I wanted to tune an AWD A class Audi R8, to run on say.........Mugello, where would you begin?
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:17 pm

My first advice would be to buy a random car. Put ALL of the handling upgrades in it and then just start adjusting things. If you don't know what something does or how it affects the car. Adjust it to the extremes and test out how that makes the car react. Then its all about how the car feel or reacts to your input tuning or driving it. Example could be if you think the car is understeering. You could try Lowering the front Anti Roll bars or Front springs. But be careful because you could also make the car oversteer as you exit or enter a corner. These things will also feel different or react different when your tuning RWD,FWD,AWD.....

Really its one MASSIVE balancing act to tune the car to the very edge of its capabilities without making it spin or kill somebody on the track lol.

If I was just starting out again, I would just go out, buy that R8. Load all the handling upgrades into it (Cause its for mugelo) and start playing around with the settings. Or even pick a small track where you can keep going through the same corner over and over so you can see what the adjustments are doing to the handleing or speed of the car.

Start with that and keep ASKING QUESTIONS! Always happy to help Smile

If you think the car could be better in some aspect or you can't fix something. Just post here and we can get you pointed in the right direction. There is NO set way to tune. It all comes with playing around with different setups and trying new things. LIKE PAINTING! But you need to understand what your doing to the car and how thats making it faster,smoother,turns in better,accels faster, more/less oversteer/understeer, what it does when you touch a rumble strip.....Its kinda daunghting at first. But you gotta start somewhere right
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:00 am

My advice is to send me a chat request when we are both online hehe
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:25 am

Hahahaha why didnt I think of that before I typed that chit.....
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:28 am

Ok guys. Ive been playing around with the idea of tuning and I'm pleased to announce Ive tuned a VW Golf R32 capable of running 00:40.552 around Tsukuba Short. This time was set by PostmanSouthie (dunno if you've heard of him). Anyway, I also sent one over to Sane from S&R tuning to test as he is ranked 7 on that track, and I know him quite well so thought if anyone can test it, he can.
So he comes back to me saying Postman was lying, and that he could only manage a 00:41.200. I thought this was odd because I can run a 00:41.351 in it, and there's no way on earth I'm a good enough driver to only be 100th of a second slower than Sane! Maybe it just didnt suit his driving style, who knows?
Anyway, I sent a copy to Bickel last night to try out, and he ran 00:40.725 within 10 laps, so its safe to say this tune is good for the top 500 on tsukuba short in the right hands.
So I'd like to take this opportunity to say...............WOOHOO! I tuned a car! who wants one??
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:49 am

Send one my way fletch and congrats on tuning your first car cheers
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:54 am

I'll get one over to you next time I'm on the box Ghandi, although I must warn you, this thing will not go sideways no matter how much you try, lol!
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:56 am

Trust me, I'll make it get sideways lol
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:00 pm

Ok Ghandi I've sent one your way.

And for the rest of you, here are some pics to feast your eyes on.



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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:01 pm

OOO Me likey Smile

How about a cool Dark Silver to make it a little more.....Manly? LOL!

GREAT JOB FLETCH!
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:39 am

Cool Thing fletch, I would like one too if possible. Blue or gray, I like the paint anyway Wink
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:36 am

No Bret, no silver, no way, never. Although it may work. I want to keep this beast blue. But if you want a copy then maybe I could be persuaded to change yours to silver.
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:12 pm

Looks VERY sharp man!


The R32 can be very very competitive too great choice of car.
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:21 pm

My best time in it round Tsukuba short is 00.41.351. But thats cos I suck,lol! But I tuned a Lancia Delta today, and Ive managed it in 00.41.306, and also a Puegoet 206 that has done it in 00.41.385.
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:12 pm

Do you think you could send me the 206 over so I could see what its like?

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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:41 am

yeah sure, no problem. Will get it over to you next time I'm on.
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:39 am

They both are so close together. I think the VW has alittle advantage cause it has a V-6 with the torque coming out the tight turns but I believe the Pug has a weight advantage so it is very close.

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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:45 am

Damn, I love the look of the Golf. I'm about to buy one for myself in spring as well. The tires, the paint suits as well... I love the Golf Mk4 cheers
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:46 pm

Im glad you like it GT. Have you run any laps in it yet?
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:18 pm

sure, ran that 40.998 yesterday - damn you Bickel Smile. I'll try the long one later.
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:07 pm

Try it in the morning GT!!! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:16 pm

LOL Smile yeah, I should Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:09 pm

Tsukuba only Sad a 54:531 for me...
Suzuka East 49:206 ... far away from great for me, but Bickel, YOU should try it there, I was close to my Godzilla often!
similar on LAguna Seca. But maybe I shoud really try in the morning lol...

Anyway, even if no Top 100 or whatever car, I love it - honestly! Smile I love you
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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:39 pm

Yeah I will give Suzuka East a try that is a track that I am fairly good at maybe cause all the laps in the R32. I will also try Laguna cause of the FWD contest I might do well there too.

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PostSubject: Re: I want to tune   Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:29 am

56:683 at Mugello short... I cannot drive fast anymore. This whole study stuff makes me slower and slower Sad
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